May 7th, 2014 
AstroNerdBoy ユーキューホルダー! Manga Review
UQ Holder Chapter 33
SPOILER Summary/Synopsis:
Touta races to the knocked down and dying Kirie, who manages to grab Touta and ask to hold his hand. Touta agrees, but as Kirie dies, Touta finds himself back UQ Holder HQ with Kirie in a praying fashion in front of her save point. Touta is stunned by this, but decides this must be a waking dream. Kirie informs him he’s wrong as this is her power of Reset and Restart. Touta is exited that they went back in time, but he’s wrong in thinking it is a time machine or magic that can be learned. Touta thinks Kirie is awesome as she lays out the rules of her immortality. Kirie becomes annoyed at Touta’s attitude, letting him know that dying hurts. Further, she’s angry with his incompetence for allowing her die over six times.
On the boat, Touta reflects on this, then remembers Kirie’s instructions for him to act and say the things he said before. However, he can’t remember his responses to the previous conversation, irritating Kirie further.
After parting company with Ikkuu and Kuroumaru, Touta asks Kirie if they can’t call the other two for backup. Kirie rejects this since she wants things to play out as much as possible to how they were to try to accomplish her goal. Now that she’s finally taken him back, she hopes this time will be better. Touta asks why she didn’t take him back before. She gets angry, saying he always raced off to go after the assassin. She managed to stay conscious enough the last time to grab his arm and change things.
Touta asks what they are doing, so Kirie briefs him on their true enemy, Fate Averruncus. He’s coming to Earth alone for the first time in thirty years, and used to be a rival and friend of Touta’s grandfather, Negi Springfield. Touta is shocked by this, conceding he knows almost nothing about his grandfather and wants to know. Kirie says their first priority is to get to Fate in one piece, meaning they have to get past the assassin. Just as CHAO Xinzi goes to attack Kirie, Touta kicks him some distance into the trash, causing Kirie to concede his efforts weren’t bad.
Thoughts/Review:
OK, so now we have this whole save point thing down. The system works pretty much as I expected with Kirie basically doing a Groundhog Day maneuver and reliving her life from the save point forward with all her memories intact. The unexpected element is her ability to take someone back in time with her. That part of her immortality makes no sense to me. How does this avoid massive paradoxes? If she’s dying, how does someone else come along for the ride?
For the paradox thing, I guess she forces someone else to time leap so that they suddenly find themselves back where they were, only with memories of where they’d been and what they’d done. So assuming that her save point starting moment had Touta in the boat already rather than stop to see her, then he’d find himself back in the boat and wondering what the heck is going on. By leaping back into his body from an earlier time, he then avoids encountering himself, avoiding one paradox.
OK, so Kirie can take at least one person back in time with her. (I predict this number will expand, or Touta will be able do save points with expanded numbers.) In this one instance, I can understand Kirie not wanting to change things too much in order to reach her objective. (And I think she’s already traveled ahead and seen that Fate was coming down, then wants to make sure things go that same way so that Fate doesn’t change his plans.) But from a story perspective, rather than taking the time to put her foot in Touta’s face and angrily complain about his incompetence, why didn’t she simply say, “if something happens to me, take my hand and don’t let go.” It is simple, but should be effective enough for an idiot like Touta.
Still, Kirie has a good point to her in that she’s insulting Touta and trying to stomp his face.
Having Xinzi (I’m going to use the official name spelling for Chao’s given name to avoid the confusion with Chao in Negima) return to be the assassin was unexpected, but it did fit with my theory that he wasn’t dead. I had thought that he’d return to attack Karin again back during the fight with Powerful Hand, but now he’s here.
Naturally, Touta effortlessly defeats Xinzi whereas Karin had a difficult time of things. Even if Xinzi gets back up, Touta will put him back down.
Speaking of Touta, while this chapter doesn’t actually confirm that Touta is Negi’s grandson, it is clear that Akamatsu-sensei wants that to be established as fact. The way UQ Holder is playing out, I’m finding that I’m not trusting “facts” that Akamatsu-sensei is laying out. That’s mostly because of Touta’s convenient memory loss and the fact that the “official” story was one thing, but the real story was something else. So I find that because Akamatsu-sensei has put this lie into the story, now everything stated as fact could be retconned as a lie and the truth is something else. As such, Touta’s family name and even his supposedly being the grandson of Negi is something I’m loathe to swallow based on the scant information given to date. It may all be true, but the earlier lie causes me to doubt almost everything.
I don’t doubt that Fate is the enemy of UQ Holder. Negi’s “I’ve got to be friends with Fate” goal was achieved in Negima, but Fate made it conditional. With Negi apparently dead, I can see Fate saying, “You know, I gave Negi a chance, but he got himself killed, thus I’m going to do things my way.” Eva and the others didn’t agree with Fate’s way and thus the battle between UQ Holder and Fate.
Now, as to Fate being the current greatest wizard in the solar system, I can believe that. We don’t know why Eva apparently got weakened, but I can see Fate, as an artificial being, coming up with a way to continue to power up, even at the cost of powers to other mages.
As weak as Kirie is, I do wonder what she hopes to accomplish in meeting Fate, especially since Fate wants Touta. I guess we’ll find out eventually.
I realize my remarks may come off as negative, but this wasn’t a bad chapter. There were a lot of good things here. I’m hoping that Mr. Leap-before-you-look learns something, especially after discovering that his stupidity caused Kirie so many problems. I figure that he’ll continue his stupid ways and do a Godzilla stomp on all in his path, even if he takes some damage in the process.
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Neh depends, Eva does have the endless white nine heavens spell
True, but there have been implications that she *might* have lost some power. It is hard to say with Akamatsu-sensei since he’s being cagey.
First, thanks for the good review! Now:
1-“I’m hoping that Mr. Leap-before-you-look learns something, especially after discovering that his stupidity caused Kirie so many problems.”. Oh, my friend, I am so sorry… you have already given the answer to yourself: ” I get it! I get it! I don’t really get it at all, but I get it!” ¬¬
2-Wow, some Fate development is Always welcome! And, thinking again, maybe he is an “Ok immortal” for Powerful Hand standards? I mean, full body cyborgs are common, right? They can be killed just like anyone else, just dont get old. Cyborgs from Science, Fate from magic. I can imagine him being accepted as an artificial being! Besides, when you’re so important (like he seems to br), it might be hard hiding your nature.
Watch — he’ll be her father. *lol*
*lol* There go my pipe dreams. ^_~
As to Fate, Powerful Hand (or rather Nagumo) may not have even met Fate. Everything could have been done over the phone or through an intermediary, so he might not realize whom he was dealing with.
I assumed that Eva isn’t really weak, she’s just been going easy on Touta like she did with Negi early on.
Still, the most interesting part of this manga is the references to Negima which I’m not happy about, I wish Touta was anywhere near as deep and interesting as Negi. I keep having this hope that when Touta gets his memories back his personality will change, even Negi was a bit hopeless at the beginning of Negima and didn’t become the Negi we know until the the Eva arc.
I’m looking forward to seeing Fate and why Xinzi has the same family name as Negi’s descendant Chao Lingshen.
I like to believe that. But Eva’s rather cryptic remark about her current state when she put out the fires started making me wonder if Kuroumaru’s tribe’s remarks about Eva not being what she once was is true.
If she has lost power maybe the connection between her and the Lifemaker is the reason, since he made her into a vampire maybe he did something to weaken her during the arc we never saw.
Yeah, it could be something like that.
several things to say astro :
1. To start I ‘m not there you abbuses agreements Astro seriously ! Tota Chao has not beaten too easily. Karin did not have a ” hard time ” in front of him . She could have fucked when she wanted but she is reluctant to use her holy power . Chao for me is just a big mytho who feels strong but that is just a degenerate who would go better now a psychiatrist or even a mage healer specializing in sociopathy !
2 . I have a theory about Fate averruncus what it would be like the current avatar Mage of the Beginning , that kirie mentioned as the ” real enemy ” points to this for me .
3 . Agreements I am , I feel that the birth of Tota hides many secrets. His parents were apparaments specialized in genetics. Who says they have not tried to clone Negi ? This is to prevent the next resurrection of life -maker likely to be held sooner or tards . ^ ^
That said, this ” official story ” is interesting because it finally reveals Negi ‘s wife ^ ^
4. Brief I want more! ! ! ! When will come the spoils in your opinion? ^ ^
Well, she took a beating because of that reluctance. Even when she fought back, he was not taken down for a while. With Touta, it is one kick and they appear to be on their way. ^_^;
As to Fate and the MotB, Fate and the others are the creation of MotB as I understand it. Plus, the whole body hoping thing is just a theory at this point.
Somehow, I think that Akamatsu-sensei won’t be quick to reveal that information. ^_~
Maybe Friday (I hope).
1. It does not change the fact that Chao is a sub- shit who is unable to fight this other than by a resumption of hentai tentacles with its shadowy hands or attacking from behind wholesale loose. Adds it to its personalitée psychopath and you get the same type of ” head slap ” you dream of furring to death. For me it would be Tota is not beaten him in a move that would disappoint me . ^ ^
2 . Fillius zect was presumed to be a creation of life -maker (he looked a LOT averruncus ) is as yet he was the next avatar.
And I say that agreements ‘ immortalitée of life -maker may be anything more than a reincarnation but how else to explain its appearance chenge every time and what is more it is that of one of his former adversaries. Now it is true that Albireo immortalitée said that the life -maker working on the principle of “continuity ” has not used the term ” reincarnaton ” or ” possession ” but I do not see what it could be other than that.
“Presumed” is the key word there. It has not been established that the MotB is in fact body-hopping. That may be Akamatsu-sensei’s intent, but he has yet to establish that as an actual fact within the manga. ^_^
You aren’t alone in seeing things this way, but there could easily be another method that you haven’t seen.
I also think that Evangeline isn’t weak here, it is only that if she uses all his power, all would be too easy.
The immortality of the Kirie is interesting, “you save” and if you die “you revive” from where you save to last time as in the videogames (And if does someone see the save point and by curiosity puts out the flame and remove it? would be quite irritant that XD)
I wonder if Fate will find Touta in the place, it can be that he wants to take Touta because he failed before with the immortal hunters
(Then, in that moment, Karin would arrive from where the moon, she would see it and she would fight with Fate for avoid it. Then, in the end Evangeline would arrive and Fate would end up joining in UQ holder (it would be the person that is to side of Evangeline with the face covered in the image) nah, it is a theory of me. XD)
I wonder if the Magia Erebea will appear in Touta again, he got have control over it, but, it isn’t so easy, it was very difficult for Negi and he needed help
About the other characters of the image, I wonder if they also are part of UQ holder
The child vampire, I have the feeling that he isn’t part of UQ holder (Apart if he isn’t shinso as Evangeline, he can only appear at the night, isn’t it? Does he need blood for live? or Doesn’t he need either? XD)
I hope you are right. ^_^
That’s the thing about this type of immortality. It would seem that she’d die if the flame was put out and removed.
Well, if Fate and Touta meet up, I hope Touta takes a massive butt kicking, but the only reason Fate leaves is due to the negative consequences of him continuing with grabbing Touta.
As to the other characters, I’m guessing that we’ll have stories dedicated to them (or partially to them) over the coming months.
I doubt Chao is down just like that. It’d be just too silly, although I don’t expect the fight against him to last more than one or two at best chapters more.
I also doubt Touta is really going to learn anything from this. If anything, what he’s learning from this is, no matter how much he screws it, Kirie can respawn apparently none worse for the wear, and they can try again, so why to worry too much about it? As a matter of fact, the plot’s message for Touta seems to be no matter what, things always will work out for him (contained down? No worries, Magia Erebea will kick in. Outnumbered? No worries, your super cool and uber powerful friends will show up to save your bacon. Feeling in need of techniques? No worries, someone will conveniently show up just to teach you some because they didn’t have anything better to do. Failed at protecting your target? No worries, she’s immortal too and will come back so you get another try). The plot is built up in such a way it’s not the usual ‘How can the hero prevail?’ but rather ‘How could the hero NOT prevail?’
I wonder if he’ll show up at a later point and be down for the count just for the moment.
I think that’s been the message of the entire manga to date. *lol*
I’m not going to try to continue to discuss with you on UQ even if I give to 300 arguments you always say that I understand nothing about this manga médiocritée limits as if I was an idiot. You had not , moreover, that this manga was for 10-12 years or something like that called ? ( insulting the way all those who love it! ) .
Just one thing anyway , each to his immortality and weakness may be some immortal kill jinbei explains itself.
And was not you who is pleignais you that Tota were too beautiful role and members of UQ should Responding to Nagumo ? Or confuse me with someone else ? Now you said that UQ would not intervene ? What you wanted ? All slum dwellers facent massacre and Tota return to the base crying ? Since its first mission?
And another thing : you have to read combiens Nekketsu far apart negima ? I’m sure you read in full ( and be honest !) Not because critical facts you UQ apply to ALL Shonen same Nekketsu negima (in Kyoto arc Negi manages to surprise then that Fate latter is much stronger and Eva arrives to save him.
In the mundus-magicus Negi uses a remake of the room time Dragon ball to reach to compete with jack- rakan in 1 week . Bouuh is cliche sucks!
You see I can also be nasty , mean , bad – faith and criticize too quickly.
And this kind of “cliches” is in naruto , bleach, fairy- tail , Kenichi Yuyu hakusho-(astro could you talk about it, he saw it seems ^ ^) and many other Nekketsu . Besides, we should not even speak of ” snapshots” is too pejorative but “codes” . When you read a fairy tale , for example there are patterns that repeat this does not mean that the tale is zero. Is similar to action movies , horror , romances ect.
Of course , a manga that breaks the rules is always fun , myself I apprécis ( example : hunter x hunter ) but that does not mean that Nekketsu manga following codes Nekketsu is a bad or a bad manga s is absurd ! Trouverat be absurd for a romance manga respect the codes of romance manga ? No.
The question is whether these codes are used in ways not completely cohérantes and ” what the fuck ” (as in Fairy Tail for example , manga or I yelled several times so the author abused the power-up beyond logical lol ) ANY . But for me , that is the scenario, the logic of ProgresSon and power-up , or the use of codes I did nothing wrong, it is far from a Fairy-tail and even a moin-Dragon Ball GT.
UQ -Holder is not a seinen ( one type of manga or there is almost no codes) !
And again, Negima is almost as “cliché” (as I’ve said I HATE is the word) that UQ-Holder for me.. It does not prevents it from being a great manga!
And precisely because I saw these “snapshots” of my experiences Commes readers Nekketsu I can not accept the almost automatic and unfair criticism that strikes you at UQ-Holder or his main character Tota.
I know I said I débattrais bo more but we will say that was my ultimate tantatives to make you understand that you are wrong in my opinion.
ps : for information “snapshots” = “cliches” (thanks google trad AGAIN grrr lol)
my last big comments is for “Over-master” (the “reply” fonction failed lol^^)
Ah. OK, I was thinking you were blasting me and I was going, “But I didn’t do anything.” *lol*
No problem. ^_^
Sorry for my confusion, but are you blasting me because you perceived that I am treating you like an idiot? If so, you’ve got the wrong idea for sure. ^_^;;;;;;;;;;
Whatever you say, Fanboy.
What was I saying? Zero dialogue : “me the big -fa negima I am right and those who love Uq -Holder are morons . .. ” Thank you confirmed your mind lol.
I bet you did not even read my arguments. Yet I have read yours arguments and everything I read was ” Negima property was better now , Tota ‘s not like Negi , the scenario is not as I would like, therefore UQ -Holder is zero ” . And you call me a fanboy ? I would say the same to you my dear friend. ^ ^
Passage ” fanboy ” has become a handy insult. Anyone refusing to adopt the point of view of a critic of some manga ( naruto , bleach, manga Clamp ect) is systematically accused of being a fanboy ! Is so convenient ( and pathetic ) .
Basically ” Fanboy / fangirl ” is not especially a fan ONLY ONE reading manga ( for possibly two or three) and considers that, apart from this one while others are worthless. I am far from it , you’d be surprised at the number of manga which I know and even if I do not have all liked I have at least recognized the qualities of EVERY manga I’ve read or seen .
As I said , today ” fanboy ” is an practice insult to close any debate and give a sense of superiority . But really ? Astro is there a Fanboy ? Thateven if he does not appreciate Tota he likes UQ , according to your philosophy he’s a fanboy. l
No, really. I don’t give your long and rambling speeches full of nothing and barely translatable as ‘Waaahhh wahhh, meanie is insulting my dear bestest manga’ the answers you wish for because they are not worth it. Leaving aside the fact it’s a pain to guess your way out through the mangled writing you produce just to figure out your unpalatable meanings, you have set your mind up, and nothing anyone says will change your pre-set ways. You take it personally whenever someone dares to talk ill about your precious UQ Holder, since no one ever starts taking shots at you; rather, it’s you who start taking personal shots on our attempts to merely pull Akamatsu’s writing flaws apart, and then you act as the victim whenever you are answered in kind. When you do that, you forfeit the right to a serious answer.
Try to write in a language that is not yours with google trad and we’ll talk . Like trying to write in French for example lol.
My previous comment , trying to show you that what you perceive as ” writings flaws ” are not really faultless. But there was another goal I was trying to say : ” chenge disk ” . Seriously , it was realized that you not like UQ -Holder okay … You told us fifty did move on ! You have the right to dislike Uq but there is almost brainwashing !
When I read you I feel you trying to prevent people who likes to read manga or in the déguter ; For once you appear in my yex well more ” fanboy ” than me. As if you perceived UQ -Holder as a ” desecration ” of Negima and you tried to prevent his successor for Negima does not ” tainted ” .
Is here for me to book a verbal joust with you for months is because I have the impression that you’re trying to influence future fans or blame those who love manga . And that I can not accept it ; We have the right to not like a manga, but not that it is mandatory to declare null and those who appreciate it are idiots .
If this is not the case, I suggest you calm your ardor UQ on you because as I ‘ve said , it sounds like you trying to brainwash their fan in martelants ” this manga is null it is worthless is a shame. ”
One more thing, you’d be surprised to learn that I ‘m not particularly fn Tota , it is endearing , but more like astro, I find qu’l unable to ankle Negi issue charisma to the moment. By cons :
1. I find unjustified criticism of his evolution, as I said I is not nothing to say . When his character . What you really wanted it to look like Negi ? He really was a clone in this case. He had to be diddérend or opposite .
2 . Judging a manga only his hero and after me VERY bad method. There are many manga Going General shonens or gift the hero does not attract me more than that ; I look more secondary characters, and the development of universal history. And for me, there is nothing wrong here .
Negima ended with a lot of unanswered questions. The author admits and offers possibilitée to obtenirs several génératins added later with a descendant of Negi. It reminds me of Jojo bizarre adventure and history of Joystar family over several generations and it will please me very much. ^ ^ It gives the university Akamatsu thousand possibilities extentions.
“or he used his own body to fuse and seal the Mage away causing him to change.”
But that’s the same thing that already happened with Nagi, which would be disappointing because the series already is recycling more than enough elements of Negima as it is.
Been waiting for mangastream for quite a while but finally found an English trans of it that was decent enough to read.
I really like kirie reset ability and the comment about fate really does tease on the whole what on earth happened in 2065? That lead to the apparent death of Negi Springfield and The Mage of Beginning.
Considering Negi ability to grow and develop new magic and technique and only being shy of Eva queen of ice magia erebea form… I wouldn’t be surprise if he became stronger than her and with fate being an equal to negi… Upon his death I’m not surprised that he dubbed the strongest in the solar system.
Though it possible Eva and Fate are on par with each other and I’m sure Eva sama can pull through if they held a catastrophic all out fight.
Alternatively one possible route that akatmatsu could have taken is that the Mage couldn’t be physically killed and was sealed away and possible using negi as a sacrifice to do some grand scale magic or he used his own body to fuse and seal the Mage away causing him to change.
Either way it still early days to tell how things will go but fate as a way more powered up enemy is always interesting. (Plus we all loved that negi vs fate and rakan vs fate duel.)
Me either.
Eva did send Fate running on their first encounter. It is possible that Eva has been weakened somewhat. I wouldn’t want that, but it may be a way for Akamatsu-sensei to use her more often without her overpowering everyone.
un petit spoil pour vous les gens que mon collègue kiba a obtenu du twitter de Hatta :
“While waiting for images or chapter Chinese version I found some spoils from Hata:
“Chao counter attacks, Tota Almost screws up, Ameya and saves the day.”
Apparently there will be a focus on a fight against Chao chapter.
Otherwise Southrop also announced on twitter that he can not translate may be the chapter and make notes as usual as it is during exams.”
The Tota-bashers will be happy (hein over-master ?^^) is not him who fights chao ^ ^.
Yeah, I saw that from Hata. I had hoped we’d get some spoilers, but alas, none yet.