UQ Holder Chapter 113 Manga Review (How to battle loli babes!)

ユーキューホルダー! Manga Review
UQ Holder Chapter 113

SPOILER Summary/Synopsis: 

UQ Holder Chapter 113Honoka introduces herself and Isana as Isana notes Mana, Zazie, and Yukihime watching them from the school window. Yukihime tosses Touta Kurobo (Gravity Blade) Honoka opens a portal to teleport Touta over the bridge to Mahora, where a huge parade is ongoing. Touta crashes after Isana attacks, causing damage below. He laments the endangerment of the civilians as Isana does an eight-way split and attacks. In attempting to escape, Kurobo tells him that Isana has driven him into a trap lain by Honoka.

Honoka uses magic to suppon powerful water sprites that take the form of dragons to attack him. Kurobo tells him to perform a midair shundo, but since Touta hasn’t mastered that, he goes down one dragon’s gullet and is caught. Kurobo tells him Honoka has him and tells him to get his hoop out immediately. As Touta does this, Honoka causes her space ship to rise out of the water with Isana on it at the ready.

Honoka tells him their mission is to take him to Fate and have him join them. Before she can seal him, Touta uses his punch attack that strips Honoka of her clothing. Incensed at Touta’s disgraceful technique, Isana attacks him, but she too gets stripped. Isana goes off on Touta for being a pervert, though Touta did this as he didn’t want to hurt the girls.

Fate shows up and gives blankets to Honoka and Isana to cover themselves, telling Honoka that he didn’t order them to bring Touta to him. Fate asks Touta to excuse the girls and remarks on how much more powerful he’s become. Touta is angry and is ready to fight Fate, but Honoka pleads for him to stop, stating that Fate is trying to save their grandfather. She says that he can’t save Negi staying with Yukihime since Yukihime wants to kill Negi.

Thoughts/Review:

And so we have a twist, but one that actually makes sense.

UQ Holder Chapter 113

This chapter seems to confirm the idea that the Konoe family are working with Fate. After all, Fate considers Touta to be his, and Touta’s “parents” were Konoe family members. That suggests that Touta’s
“parents” were working for Fate, then for whatever reason, decided to escape with Touta, leading to Fate killing them.

As I suspected, Isana and Honoka were acting of their own accord. After they discovered Touta’s family name to be the same as theirs, I’m sure they researched him, discovered his entire history (as it relates to them and to Fate’s goal of rescuing Negi), and so decided to set out on their own to capture Touta, no doubt hoping to earn some praise from Fate at the same time.

Isana and Honoka are quite impressive as a team and as individuals. Isana appears to be at Setsuna’s skill level in terms of Shinmeiryuu abilities. Honoka is really impressive as an Eastern mage with her rapid use of spell strips and such. Her use of a teleportation portal reminded me of Majik from Marvel Comics. (I had a massive 2D crush on her as a teen. 😛 ) Put these two together, and it is no wonder that Touta had to resort to stripping them both to get out of the bind he was in.

I had to “laugh” at how Kurobo got retconned into things. Touta didn’t bring the sword with him, nor did Eva, but suddenly Eva had it and tossed it too him just as he’s going through the teleportation portal. Har!har!

Still, Kurobo was another one of those forgotten characters, but here, the sword does its duty of comic relief. I admit, I was amused at how it praised Touta for stripping the girls, even if it got cut off from expressing more in his comparison of Touta’s technique to someone else (I assume Negi).

I note that Isana and Honoka have inherited what appears to be the Great Paru-sama. I’m not surprised the ship shows up here since Akamatsu-sensei has the CG file for it from Negima, making it easy to include in UQH. I would be interested to know how the Konoe family got it from Paru.

UQ Holder Chapter 113

I also note with some keen interest that Isana addresses Honoka as “Ojousama.” So even though Japanese fans (and some Western fans) have been calling them twins, this strongly suggests that although they have the same family name, they are not related. Indeed, it would suggest to me that they are indeed clones of Setsuna and Konoka, and that Isana has simply been adopted into the Konoe family.

As to the revelation made by Honoka that Eva wants to kill Negi, I’m going to reserve judgement on that. Isana has a weird look on her face when Honoka said that, and I don’t believe for a moment that Eva would want to kill Negi. I’m going to assume that Honoka is either uninformed as to Eva’s true plan, or she is purposefully misstating the facts to manipulate Touta.

I do note the use of “Oniisama” and “Niisama” when the girls are addressing Touta. Hoodie also addressed Touta as “Niisan.” That means all three of these girls acknowledge Touta as being older than them, even though he’s supposedly four years old.

In the end, this was quite a good chapter as the plot continues.

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51 Responses to “UQ Holder Chapter 113 Manga Review (How to battle loli babes!)”

  1. NML says:

    Sidestick helping Tota reminded me of Al telepathically helping Asuna during her fight against Setsuna.

    I’m guessing that Eva doesn’t want to kill Negi but since she has some experience with seeing the MotB’s power, maybe she’s resigned herself to thinking that there’s no way to rescue Negi. Tota convincing her they’re powerful enough to rescue him will probably be a new subplot. Although next chapter I’ll probably turn out to be wrong.

    I really want a flashback of Negi and co. fighting the Lifemaker. I think we saw just before the fight in Nagumo’s flashback.

    • Rob C. says:

      I was thinking about that, too. Eve may want put Negi out of his misery than see him enslaved by her most hated of all people in her life.

      • AstroNerdBoy says:

        Maybe, but I’m not so sure. We don’t have all the facts here, and Honoka’s story is certainly colored to favor her point of view. We’ve yet to hear Eva’s response.

    • Rob C. says:

      Eye-Revealing chapter for sure. Bit over the top. I have to admit i was confused when Eve tossed something from the hole the twins made.

      I think their mis-lead on what going on, but Fate may know that Eve may go so far as to kill Negi to “save” him from fate worse than death.

      Side Questions: Our “family’s” personal space cruiser. That thing isn’t (last i checked) a space cruiser, air cruiser yes. Another is their families? When were they related to our previous series’s favorite manga artist?

      • AstroNerdBoy says:

        I think their mis-lead on what going on, but Fate may know that Eve may go so far as to kill Negi to “save” him from fate worse than death.

        That I can buy. I can see Eva choosing to kill Negi as a last option, but not as the option of the moment.

        Side Questions: Our “family’s” personal space cruiser. That thing isn’t (last i checked) a space cruiser, air cruiser yes. Another is their families? When were they related to our previous series’s favorite manga artist?

        Haruna could have willed it to the Konoe family upon her death. Or she may have sold it to them and purchased something better. Haruna did move to Mars (magic world), so who knows if she even kept the ship.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Sidestick helping Tota reminded me of Al telepathically helping Asuna during her fight against Setsuna.

      Yep, that’s true. I’m thinking Kurobo will turn out to be Al somehow.

      I really want a flashback of Negi and co. fighting the Lifemaker. I think we saw just before the fight in Nagumo’s flashback.

      I agree.

  2. Djdj says:

    Sooooooo Eva decide to kill Negi lol

    Come on Eva x Negi ship has been barely sailing for 2 chapters, it sunk already? Lol

    You can hop up to my Touta ship any day guys.

    That aside; good chapter this week. Can’t wait till the next one. So much plot recently!!

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Come on Eva x Negi ship has been barely sailing for 2 chapters, it sunk already? Lol

      Ha!ha! It is still sailing. ^_^

  3. LoneWolfx03 says:

    Let’s not make it to haste and say that their ship is the Great Paru-sama. The only thing to confirm it is the Ala Alba logo on top of the ship since the ship did not see it fully and was cut out from the upper pic..

    About the previous topic I post (about Eva’s explanation), what I mean is that Eva said “He died happily” in MSN. The “Resonance” explanation made by Zazie made us conclude that Negi really did DIED even though he is immortal since it is a possibility because of Touta’s “White” Mars. That is… is what I concluded thus, making Timeline B a Sad Story since Asuna in the future did not meet Negi. 🙁

    I really want to hear your thoughts Astro. ^_^

    …and I can predict on the next chapter that Yukihime and the others will catch up to them and explain everything or Touta will go on “Sad/Angry but Confused” state. This is Akamatsu we are talking here. I don’t know what will happen next. :’D

    LoneWolfx03 -]===-

    • Handsome Savior says:

      I hope You Said Was Not True I want Touta Meet Asuna and Negi Get Together and Touta Said Nice Meet you GrandMother Asuna Family reunion.

    • Aki says:

      Negi still very much alive just the death seems to be the best cover for those possessed by the Mage. Since Nagi was assumed to be dead but was very much alive.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Let’s not make it to haste and say that their ship is the Great Paru-sama.

      True, it wasn’t specifically stated. I think there’s a good chance that it will be the same ship though, especially if Fate got control of it after Ala Alba split up and Eva founded UQ Holder.

      I agree with your thoughts on Timeline B. Negi passed away and never got to see Asuna again there. 🙁 However, since Asuna going back created a new timeline (or something paradoxical) and allowed her and Negi to continue to work together, all’s well that ends well so to speak. 🙂

      As to your prediction… 😆 I can see either of those scenarios happening.

  4. Marcusss says:

    Did you notice the linr about ”magical uniforms”? That would suggest Touta’s attacks didn’t really destroyed clothes…. but dispelled magic…;)

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      I think it was a combination of both. I could be wrong, but I don’t think that Karin’s clothing is armored. She has a permanent barrier up of some kind (or can throw one up in a flash if needed), as indicated by her fight with Xinxai. Touta stripped her too.

  5. Eldritch Gentleman says:

    With Konoes apparently being on Fate’s side as well as Honoka and Isana having Great Paru-sama I’m getting an even stronger impression that rather than “Fate went back to being evil” we are dealing with a HUGE rift within Ala Alba itself regarding to what they should do with Negi and how.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      I agree. After Negi departed, I can see Fate taking over and saying, “Its my way or the highway” since that’s how he seems to roll. In that scenario, Eva clearly would have nothing to do with that, so she and many of the others would have left the group (Mana, Zazie, Sayo, Ayaka, and Chachamaru for sure). Interesting that none of them joined UQH though.

  6. Dargor says:

    >Same level as Setsuna

    Yeah, maybe in the very beginning of the Kyoto arc when everything is sedate compared to the late game. Granted, Shinmeiryu is pretty samey no matter who’s using it, but I’d still say Setsuna and Eishun would be a cut above Kuro and Not!Setsuna.

    The real contender here is Not!Konoka. Easily the strongest and most effective eastern type mage we’ve seen, and seems legitimately skilled in what she does. Paints a nice picture of what Konoka would eventually become, which is both cool and terrifying. Now, if we could replace those two losers Kuro and Kirie with these two, I might be willing to consider this series to be salvageable…I know that’s never going to happen because everything else is a complete train wreck, but hey, points for not failing on a concept Akamatsu. Few more chapters of that, and you’ll step off the mediocrity bus.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Now, if we could replace those two losers Kuro and Kirie with these two, I might be willing to consider this series to be salvageable

      😆 Well, they are a dynamic duo. Kirie only has her reset going for her. Kuroumaru is too unsure of herself to operate at 100%. Isasna and Honoka were on their game and working as a proper team, even though they showed no evidence of having a pactio.

  7. sanchi says:

    I agree with Astro’s theory on the Konoe family, and that Tota’s parents may have been a couple and/or workers for Fate but associated directly by blood with the Konoe family. They tried to steal Tota for whatever reasons, and was killed, and Tota left for dead where Eva then takes Tota.

    From Honoka’s magic, she is representing Konoemon’s Kantō Magic Association’s magic side, but not the healing magic, but more what Konoemon would use.

    I can see the progression to gathering of everyone for the next chapter as LoneWolfx03 predicts, and hopefully Eva will clear up Honoka’s statement. I’m waiting for the Isana and Kuromaru introduction, and if anything will happen. Good place to meet on the Great Paru-sama.

    From what Zazie was saying, maybe Honoka only sees that Eva wants Negi killed as the only way to free him from the MotB’s (resonance) control. Regardless of what the MotB will do and enter another ‘host’. Honoka only see’s her grandfather getting killed, and tearfully doesn’t want that to happen. Maybe its time to hear Fate’s and Eva’s plan too along with the at least Mana, Zazie, Chachamaru, and possibly Sayo, if Akamatsu is willing to give us some bread-crumbs.

    I guess too it was assumed that Negi was killed, for the gravestone in the beginning chapters when Tota went to his family’s graveyard there was one with his name on it.

    While enjoying the chapter Kurobo reminded me of Champo talking to Negi. I miss that rascal ermine. Finally we have some sort of action, and mixed with harem stuff, and seeing/updating familiar characters. I too see this a good chapter.

    • nt122 says:

      I was reminded that back when the reveal that Nagi was possessed, he told Negi to Kill him and ‘That will be the end of everything”

      I am taking the ending for a grain of salt, since we can also think that they Killed Nagi, but didn’t Kill him kill him, whoch means that konoka had some spell to rip the resonance from Nagi… for a time…

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      From Honoka’s magic, she is representing Konoemon’s Kantō Magic Association’s magic side, but not the healing magic, but more what Konoemon would use.

      It is good to see Eastern magic in use. In Negima, Setsuna used a bit of it, but we had no full on Eastern mages shown in action. (At least, not that I remember.)

      While enjoying the chapter Kurobo reminded me of Champo talking to Negi. I miss that rascal ermine.

      To me, Kurobo reminded me more of Al.

  8. Random Lurker says:

    Since Konoka was friends with the library trio (before the whole yuri subtext with Setsuna was introduced, weren’t they almost like a library quartet anyways?), I wouldn’t be surprised if Haruka had just left the ship with Konoka’s family.

    As for Honoka’s statement about “Yukihira-han” (I was about to ask about this until I remembered that Konoka indeed did use “han” as well), it could be that both Fate’s and Yukihira’s sides want to save Negi. But Negi wants to save his body, while Ayaka his soul. If it’s like this, I hope Akamatsu-sensei can handle this well.

    Finally, I believe many Konoka fans got all giddy inside seeing Honoka fight like this. I’m pretty sure this is what Konoka would have become if she didn’t pick the healer path. Since she was always hyped as having such huge potential as mage and so on.

    • Seimei says:

      If I may say nothing prevents Honoka to have learned the same spells Honoka in addition to practice spells of healing.

      By the way, I make a small comment about Sanchi but for me Honoka does not use western magic nor the hybride style of Kanto but really eastern magic.But fFinally, is my opinion.

      And indeed Dargor I do not think, me neither, that Isana is the same level that Setsuna at the end of Negima. However I rather think that her level is roughly that of Mahora tournaments Negima.

      • sanchi says:

        Seeing what I wrote, I’m not sure if it was Kansai or Kantō Magic Association, I need to read some Negima chapters, but that particular xxx magic association. I don’t remember much details of that magic association, but Konoemon was the chief of that magic association, and Headmaster/Dean of Mahora. Konoka was his daughter. Negi and class also had a few encounters with that association too which I barely remember — I think it was a female assassin sent from that magic association to attack Negi while he was on a class field trip? …. that assassin also used paper charms, when she tried to captured Negi. A chase also involved water too which sparked that memory and it involved Konoka and Setsuna. Around those chapters Konoka gets captured, and Setsuna first meets Tsukuyomi, something like that, so seeing the assassin is from that magic association and also using paper charms, its very similar to what Honoka used on Tota.

        The Kansai or Kantō Magic Association and its specific magic for that Association uses was never clarified other than the general word of ‘magic’, and non- specific to western or eastern magic (or I can’t remember when is was specified in Negima), but I don’t have a perfect memory of the whole Negima manga too. So maybe others may have some more information. Its that the assassin using paper charms links the type of magic.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Since Konoka was friends with the library trio (before the whole yuri subtext with Setsuna was introduced, weren’t they almost like a library quartet anyways?), I wouldn’t be surprised if Haruka had just left the ship with Konoka’s family.

      That’s a good point. Plus, Yue and Nodoka were shown working on the space station (I think), which might indicate they ended up on Fate’s team too.

      I’m pretty sure this is what Konoka would have become if she didn’t pick the healer path.

      Yeah, I agree. If Honoka is a clone of Konoka, then we are seeing Konoka’s full potential.

  9. DerGilga says:

    I noticed how Astro-san’s dislike of Super Touta decreased a lot in the recent past. Here Touta beats them using his super powers and Astro isn’t angry. Could there be another secret member of the Super Touta’s harem? 😉

    Regarding Kurobo, we still don’t know its true name. Given how often in fiction a sword’s power is bound to its true name, so far we only witness Shikai Touta. Pardon my Bleach reference.

    Adorable and badass, how can you not love them.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      I noticed how Astro-san’s dislike of Super Touta decreased a lot in the recent past. Here Touta beats them using his super powers and Astro isn’t angry. Could there be another secret member of the Super Touta’s harem? 😉

      😆 No chance, sir. 😉

      I admit that I haven’t been as irritated with Touta of late. Then again, Touta isn’t just pulling powers our of his oshiri without any training or the like. Akamatsu-sensei has shown him to be constantly training to improve himself for better reasons and not having this, “Meh” attitude. Further, his abilities to strip folks has already been established.

      Regarding Kurobo, we still don’t know its true name.

      Earlier, the sword was called Gravity Blade. That and the general nature of the sword suggests it is Al or tied to him somehow.

      Adorable and badass, how can you not love them.

      Isana and Honoka were good.

  10. arimareiji says:

    I guess this is what I get for giving so many chapters a pass… I didn’t know (or maybe didn’t remember) it being explicit canon (versus implication or word-of-mouth) that Fate killed Touta’s parents, however it came about.

    And I guess this is what I get for imagining a Star Wars dream chapter of Hayate no Gotoku (with Nagi Skywalker, Maria-wan Kenobi, Princess Hina et al trying to redeem Darth Hayate)… now I’m imagining Touta blubber “She told me enough! She told me you killed him!”, and Fate saying “No, Touta… ~I~ am your father.” “NoooOOOOoooOOOooo…” (• ̫ •)

    I bet you never guessed Fate would become a three-generation member of Negi’s harem. (^_~)

    Another extremely random thought – I wonder to what degree the Konoe family sided with Fate… could it run all the way back to Konoka and Setsuna, or did their descendants take one path and they another?

    I admit, I was amused at how it praised Touta for stripping the girls, even if it got cut off from expressing more in his comparison of Touta’s technique to someone else (I assume Negi).

    I was going to guess Jack Rakan, but Negi is probably more logical. (^_^’)

    Until this “technique” gets a better explanation, can we just start calling it deus ex hadaka? (^_~)

    Isana has a weird look on her face when Honoka said that, and I don’t believe for a moment that Eva would want to kill Negi.

    That is an odd look, but my first read of it was more “complicated” than “weird”… and I could see it being a few things – “This may get awkward, because there are a few things you don’t know yet” toward Honoka, “Please believe us even though I know you won’t” toward Touta, or “I know you have to try to tell him, but I hate to see you sad and I know he won’t believe it” toward Honoka. I’d bet that whatever the true story is, it won’t be quite as simple as either side’s version – and that sooner or later Touta’s going to find out and be mad at Yukihimeva for thinking he was too dumb to understand the complicated truth. (I can’t imagine why she would.)

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Another extremely random thought – I wonder to what degree the Konoe family sided with Fate… could it run all the way back to Konoka and Setsuna, or did their descendants take one path and they another?

      I can see them, Nodoka, Yue, and Haruka siding with Fate during a disagreement on how to save Negi.

      That is an odd look, but my first read of it was more “complicated” than “weird”… and I could see it being a few things

      Poor choice of words on my part. I had the feeling that maybe Isana was looking at Honoka as if Honoka weren’t telling the whole truth and felt guilty about it. I could be misreading it though.

  11. sanchi says:

    ” Isana addresses Honoka as “Ojousama.”

    Astro, please correct me if I am wrong, but I also kinda remember Setsuna calling Konoka that same or ‘Konoka-Ojousama’ too? That hit me first and made me think I heard this before. If so, more confirmation of your clone theory. I just can’t remember if Konoka and Setsuna stayed together – gotta read that last chapter of Negima again.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      That’s correct. Setsuna addressing Konoka as “Ojousama” showed that she was in the role of a servant to Konoka (or perhaps more accurately, she considered herself to be thus). So for Isana to address Honoka in the same way tells me that the two have a similar master-servant relationship (howbeit, I’m sure the two are close friends and are in the same family, at least by name), but they are not sisters.

      I just can’t remember if Konoka and Setsuna stayed together – gotta read that last chapter of Negima again.

      A lot of fans want to say they got married to each other, though the manga never says that. I do believe the manga does state that they worked together at some level, at least in regard to dealing with Tsukuyomi.

  12. sanchi says:

    Wasn’t Setsuna able to create a copy of herself to be in two places at one time? Isana is showed using 7 copies of herself, making a total of 8 Isanas going after Tota all at once. Maybe Isana may be more of a accomplished/powerful swordswoman than Setsuna?

    I’m beginning to think these clones were made better than the original as in better ability or power. At least they have a different individual name. Perhaps mass-producing clones are not feasible too.

    • nt122 says:

      I think Setsuna either used some advanced body flicker ability, or she actually used Clones, like Kaede.

    • ryuuya says:

      Shadow clones weren’t frequently used by Setsuna but she could likely do more, even Kotarou could do more than five at Mahora festival.

    • mattcgw says:

      @sanchi Setsuna was using Shinkigami, but it halved her mental capacity. Keade got up 16 shadow clones when she fought Fate.

      Also developed a technique that allowed her move through space with no ill side effects.

      Also their is no way Isana is greater than Setsuna, unless Isana is also a Taboō Uzokô
      hybrid.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Wasn’t Setsuna able to create a copy of herself to be in two places at one time?

      I believe Setsuna could use shadow clone techniques. Kaede was the one who was who used the most shadow clones. Even Al praised her for her technique.

      Maybe Isana may be more of a accomplished/powerful swordswoman than Setsuna?

      If she is a clone and possibly tied to Touta’s creation, then Isana may have all of Setsuna’s skills from the start of her life. That would tie in with your idea that they are better than the original. After all, if you are born with an incredible set of mastered skills, then one would think it would be easier to continue to grow above and beyond what you started with.

  13. mattcgw says:

    Secret clones such as Touta and Albino hoodie, I can accept. But interplanetary traveling ‘clones’ with Konoka’s DNA, crosses yet another line. How is Konoka just remaining an observer in this situation, when Augmented bioweapons are being mass-produced and these twins are running rampant!

    I will buy any explanation less than; Konoka is stuck dealing with Inverse mars politics. Or Governess of Osita.

    • sanchi says:

      OK, I’ll take a blind stab at this, but a warning, my imagination can be wayyyy off. 🙂

      The Circa of UQ is way in the future, where there are many advances in science, technology, and now add magic. In the UQ fantasy world we have seen robots, cyborgs, fantastic space towers and hovercraft cars and bikes. (I would have expected hoverboards like Back to the Future, but that would digress the topic). DNA is found in any cell except for those that have no nucleus, like blood cells, but skin and other tissue have it. Our liver is the only internal organ that can reproduce itself, and skin can replace damaged surface areas. There is the term of ‘stem’ cells to clone people. We only see a small portion of this future that Akamatsu allows us. But… we can imagine based on today’s cutting edge technology, like DNA mapping, and just starting the concept of cloning, how more advance can it become in that time. Add the imagination using clones in books and movie fiction and the imagination is endless. Look at robotics and the movies I, Robot, and Artificial Intelligence or AI, or the Terminator series. Scary.

      Obtaining DNA for now needs the person’s consent. Maybe in the future, it can be obtained or just taken without the person’s consent. Some ‘Law and Order’ episodes getting fingerprints from a can of soda, or DNA from a used up discarded cigarette butt. Possibly Konoka and Setsuna may not know their DNA was used or improperly obtained and being used as such. With the Konoe family possibly on Fate’s side, it may have been given freely and by consent too, or posted as part of their medical file that Fate was able to exploit for his needs.

      Clones may also be created by specialty magic too — ie Mana’s loaded guns that just appears, Kuromaru’s blade that just appears, Kuromaru’s dress by Kirie that appears, Eva’s ice outfit and blades and clothes when she switches in age, Fate’s obsidian blades too. – so why not clones. So magic may take a single stem cell and create a clone by magic. Another kind of process created Tota is another example of being only 4 yrs old, but is already appearing and acting like a teenager, is again unexplained future technology.

      Our ethics and morals we have today may not exist in this imaginary future. Alot is just used by the authors without any explanation of the ‘how its done’, and more of a convenience to a better story too. Phasers, flip communicators, transporters, tri-corders on Star Trek – are used but nothing on how it works.

      Konoka and Setsuna may also be dead from old age, after living a good life too as another had mentioned and have no say, if their bodies were preserved so a DNA sample could be obtained. Science today is trying to use DNA from a dead and frozen mammoth and retro-dna with a modern elephant to create a living mammoth, so its possible.

      Also if Setsuna and Konoka did get married to each other, all we know is both got married and no specifics to who, cloning may be the only way to have a child.

      Just some crazy ideas ….

      • mattcgw says:

        @sanchi Konoka cannot be dead. Akamatsu needs a lifemaker out of jail free card, that isn’t Jack or some Raizen level Mazoku.

        • sanchi says:

          I hope Konoka isn’t dead too. So I agree with you too.

          The wild card is Akamatsu-sensei can do anything, and may have other creative twists, turns, and different approaches too – some we don’t or won’t see and not easily predictable by all of us, and can be a big surprise to all of us, so it can mean other ‘get-out-of-jail’ possibilities too. We can only guess, and then see how close to the target we hit, and some have been hitting it too.

          Konoka hasn’t made any appearence, so we don’t know. I hope she does appear, and also settle the question on who she married too. If she hasn’t figured a way to stay young, she may be similar to Ayaka right now, and if aging wasn’t good for her, she might be unable to do much mentally or physically, like Ayaka is in a wheelchair.

          As for the body-double clones, many good questions and theories, and this is a shouen. We need more info and gotta wait for the story/Akamatsu-sensei to reveal it.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      How is Konoka just remaining an observer in this situation, when Augmented bioweapons are being mass-produced and these twins are running rampant!

      That presumes she’s still alive.

  14. nt122 says:

    You know what? if she is still alive… Isn’t Kaede the only person to actually go into space? So..wouldn’t be possibly found the way to immortality and still be alive, maybe fighting in the asteroid belt? I only mention her because she could be conveniently come back and say that she has a message from negi or something.

    Anyway…. I don’t think these two are clones. Even for clones, these two are way to aggressive. And… yeah. No real reason. I just dont think so. Goes to the reaction for isana, since she seemed way off-guard and allowed Honoka to get stripped, which she could have been able to do, and take the bullet herself. But meh.

    Until otherwise proven I’ll stand by that XD

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Isn’t Kaede the only person to actually go into space?

      I know Yue and Nodoka were working on the space station. Haruna still had the Great Paru-sama (I think I’ve been miscalling her Haruka for some reason) and moved to the magic world on Mars.

      Anyway…. I don’t think these two are clones. Even for clones, these two are way to aggressive. And… yeah. No real reason.

      That doesn’t mean they aren’t clones. They may have been raised to be aggressive, especially as part of Fate’s Ala Alba. The clone part would make sense to explain how they look identical to Setsuna and Konoka. Plus, if the two were created with the purpose of rescuing Negi and retained the power levels and skill sets of Setsuna and Konoka (then building on that), then their aggressiveness would make more sense.

      • nt122 says:

        if they were cloned and were as strong as the originals, then they would have just knocked Touta out and took him to some undisclosed location before revealing what their mission was.

        And, I would have certainly hoped they would have had the Mind to teleport Touta elsewhere Not in Mahora when they clearly wanted to avoid Eva and co. Not in the middle of the festival… yeesh.

        But… kids will be kids even if they are cloned with the skills and mind of the originals.

        • AstroNerdBoy says:

          if they were cloned and were as strong as the originals, then they would have just knocked Touta out and took him to some undisclosed location before revealing what their mission was.

          They didn’t because Akamatsu-sensei wanted the audience to know certain things as well as set up a confrontation between Fate and Eva again. 🙂

          But… kids will be kids even if they are cloned with the skills and mind of the originals.

          That’s the crux of the matter. They are still kids, and as Fate indicated, they acted on their own. By their kid logic, they acted in a way that they thought they should.

  15. Mz says:

    good to see Konoka’s dragon taming skills live on 😀

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Heh! Well technically, I don’t think this is a real dragon. I think it is a water sprite that takes the form of a dragon (or rather sprites that became dragons). That’s quite an impressive level of magical power.

  16. magine says:

    Well, seeing as honoka uses the magic, I can say, descendant surpassed her ancestor, another way.
    Touta gets furious with only hear the name of Fate (Broly=KAKAROTO! Touta=FATE!) XD
    “That exquisite stripping technique reminds me of” That sword… Kamo or Albireo… Is it you?
    well, now Fate showed up, I suppose that he will stay here to participate in the tournament, I don’t think Evangeline wanted kill Negi, anyway, I will wait the next chapter, I suppose (I hope) this matter can be clarified.

    About the Lifemaker, I remembered the anime “MAR: Marchen Awakens Romance

    Spoiler Inside SelectShow

    I think that Touta can eject the Lifemaker of Negi’s body with the ‘white of mars’ as he said. well, if Touta also have a determination or strong mind, he can refuse to be possessed (like Trunks from Dragon ball GT with Baby) But, it seems to be that nobody can avoid it.

    • AstroNerdBoy says:

      Well, seeing as honoka uses the magic, I can say, descendant surpassed her ancestor, another way.

      Yep.

      Anyway, we’ll see what happens. ^_^

      “That exquisite stripping technique reminds me of” That sword… Kamo or Albireo… Is it you?

      I vote Al. 😉

        • AstroNerdBoy says:

          It doesn’t feel like Jack. Plus, Kurobo’s other name is Gravity Blade (gravity magic being Al’s specialty) and it was found in the ruins of Al’s old underground residence. That would seem to indicate that the higher odds are that Kurobo has Al’s persona in it.

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